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Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of I Heart Radio.

Good morning.

This is Laura.

Welcome to the Before Breakfast Podcast.

Today's tip is about a strategy you can use when you're facing disappointment.

Don't get me wrong, disappointment always stings.

But this is one exercise that can give you a lot more perspective about it.

I recently heard a speech on this topic from novelist Camille Pagan.

She was talking about her career, which, from the outside, appears to be charmed.

She writes a novel a year, most recently one called, I'm Fine, and neither are you.

Her novels are almost always at the top of Amazon's charts for women's contemporary fiction.

She's been optioned by major film companies, definitely good stuff for a writer.

So when she said in her speech that she wanted to talk about persistence, and then mentioned

that her first novel, The Art of Forgetting, sold for six figures at auction, I wondered

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