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Good morning. This is Laura.

Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast. Today's tip is to really use your space.

People tend to be happiest when there is an everyday use for the spaces in their homes.

So if you don't use a room for its traditional function, change it. After all, it is your house.

So back in 2011, while I was writing a book called All the Money in the World, I interviewed

architect Sarah Susanka about the size and scale of American homes.

Susanka, author of the Not So big house series of books, noted that she encountered many homes

with unusable rooms, spaces that didn't reflect

how people actually lived. Such waste could be pricey for normal folks, but she reported that even

her clients with unlimited budgets tended to be happiest with everyday uses for their spaces.

The goal should be to use every square foot, every day.

After recently rereading all the money in the world, I have been revisiting my old work,

like I recommended in a recent episode. I have been thinking of

that goal with my new, old house. We spent a year renovating this historic home, partly to be sure we could

use the somewhat eclectic spaces. Now, a year after moving in, I tracked where everyone was during a

normal weekend day, and I am pretty sure we do indeed use the full house. Or at least I turn off the

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