Always a pleasure to welcome Pat Smith to the show.

Of course, you know him.

Jocks Radio and Birmingham, host of Three Man Front and co-creator of the Paul Feinbaum Show.

Are you allowed to say the F word on this show? Can you say the F word? Oh, yeah. Okay. I just making sure. I didn't know if the F word, Fembaum, was a dirty word on this show. So, yeah. I really wanted to ask you, because this is literally all everybody's talking about, it seems like. And I know you guys at Three Man Front are all over it. You've been asking everybody and their mother about the playoff and the expansion.

Right. about it seems like. And I know you guys at three-man front are all over it. You've been asking

everybody in their mother about the playoff and the expansion. What's your thoughts on a 24-team

playoff and do you think the SEC will bend and allow it to happen? Well, it's interesting.

You know, watching all the other conference commissioners say what they did at all their spring meetings,

I just don't believe the SEC's going to bend that knee. I think this is the hill that Greg Sanky's going to die on. I really do. Because at the end of whatever you're going to hear from the coaches and from the athletic directors at the first part of next week, listen, you've been down there, you've covered it. You know what's going to happen.

Once they get all that out of the way, then the presidents and chancellors, they sit down and they have their conversation with Greg Sankey. And for me, it's a dollars and cents thing, Mike.

It comes down to this. If you eliminate the SEC championship game, are you going to be able to

make enough money by expanding the playoff to fill the coffers of the SEC? game, are you going to be able to make enough money by expanding the

playoff to fill the coffers of the SEC? And I think at the end of the day, the answer is going to be

no. So it's a dollars and cents thing to me. If it makes sense financially to go to 24 and somebody

in the room can show everybody, the presidents and the chancellors that it can happen, then yeah, I think the SEC will absolutely take a look at it.

But right now, I don't think they see a path moving forward past 16.

Yeah, I mean, I'm not naive, right?

Money is the key to all this.

But do you think that, at least in the SEC office,

because that's all I really care about, that they are aware

that if they do this, let's say they find some magic way to replace the SEC championship

and they'll get their money. How much consideration, if any, do you think, is given to the fact that

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