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The SEC Crypto Task Force is trying to move crypto regulation from enforcement first on certainty towards clearer rules. Joining us now is Taylor Lindemann Chief Counsel of the SEC Crypto Task Force. Hello and welcome. Thanks for having me. Thanks for being here. How's your consensus going? It's going very well. Are people stopping you in the hallways trying to? I've been stopped a little bit. I've met up with some old friends. It's been fun. What kind of questions are folks asking? Well, before let's get started, I got to give my little disclaimer. So these are my personal statements. They don't represent the views of the staff or the commission. And I'm just in my personal capacity. How are folks engaging with you on the showroom floor?

Tell me.

So it's been great.

I think a lot of very positive feedback on the agency's recent statements and initiatives.

So it's been really, it's been great.

All right. Lay a foundation for us. Where is the SEC Crypto Task Force sitting today? What do you focus on? Okay. So a lot. There's a lot going on. So we've got, I try to kind of bundle the world into two different buckets. We've got one bucket, which is all of the things that are, you know, is it a security? Is it not a security? How is this offering

going to be handled? A lot of that stuff has come out through our recent commission level

interpretation and the proposed red crypto and hopefully clarity soon. And then the other big bucket

is everything that relates to our securities markets and infrastructure and how those are

going to relate to tokens.

And so those are the two big driving forces

of what's happening in the building right now

with the task force.

Well, look, your appointment to this spot is remarkable

given where the SEC was a number of years ago.

You know, one thing that I know your predecessor, Mike Sealing,

has talked a lot about, it's future-proofing, trying to future-proof regulations for the future.

What is the Crypto Task Force doing to future-proof its work?

It's a great question. So the way I think about regulation is that I think there's a certain

amount of, first you have to kind of put out what the staff thinks about things.

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