Hey, long time no C. Jesse Simonton, man, I've been enjoying you and John Reed chopping it up every week. So I had to get in on the action. How you been, man?

Doing well, doing well. Yeah, John and I got a little

slow mesh action podcast. And then I'm, you know, rocking the surrender cobra. So,

um, got that newsletter on substack. So come subscribe. Yeah, it's been fun. I've been following you

at you and Shane are still kicking it, doing, doing your fun bits, dancing away and trolling SEC fans and Big Ten

fans alike. So it's been it's been fun, you know, following you guys as always. Yeah,

I appreciate that, man. And, you know, there's no better time, I think, in college football.

November's the best. But for me, it's because it's all the guys I've been bagging on for a year they all got fired so

i'm feeling except your boy sammy right i mean like that you had you guys had to pour one out

for all for old pitman yeah that we did not really celebrate that one but i think it was i think

that's probably better for Arkansas in the long term.

But I got to say, Jesse, I've never been used as, this is going to be a weird roundabout

here, but for I believe you criticized Hugh Freeze and then Auburn people defended him.

And then other Auburn people said, look at this tool bag defending Hugh freeze but you you were the original what so what is it like being in that rabbit hole of Hugh Freezerie yeah I mean that my relationship to just Auburn hiring Hugh in general has been been kind of funny you, I can say this now because I'm not working there,

but like I wrote a column at on three the day he got hired that ended up kind of getting buried because we didn't want to piss off, you know, the Auburn brass. And that's just, I mean, that's inside baseball stuff. That's kind of how it works. But it just, I was skeptical on day one. I think Hugh, I think the game has

much like a Jimbo Fisher. I think the game had kind of passed Hugh by. It's a different reality.

And the irony that he beat Alabama twice, and one of them, you needed like the bounce off the helmet,

you know, the miracle. And Alabama starts the wrong quarterback in that game to pick up one of

those wins. The fact that that win gave him so much equity to get the Auburn job, I just think

didn't carry merit. And then look at it. Look at how it turned out. I mean, like, just because you

could beat that one team a couple times, okay, it's probably way the hell more important.

You can beat most of all the other teams all the time.

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