When Jimmy Lai was marched out of Apple Daily's offices, it marked the end of an era for Hong Kong.

The billionaire newspaper owner had been a key figure in the umbrella movement,

the protests for freedom and democracy against China's increasingly authoritarian control of the territory.

It made him a celebrity, even meeting key American leaders.

But it also made him a target.

And after the passage of Hong Kong's controversial national security law,

he was one of hundreds of activists arrested and charged with collusion with foreign powers.

Now languishing in jail as his trial continues,

his friends and allies have not given up the hope that one day

Jimmy Lai might walk free.

And that is certainly at hope of his son, Sebastian Lai, who's in studio with me right now.

Jimmy Lai is a well-known international businessman, self-made success story.

And when the crackdown came in Hong Kong, of all freedoms, he stood strong rather than,

as you just told me, Sebastian, he had a British passport. He could have easily gotten out

with his wealth. Yeah, he could have left at any point, but he knew that the right thing to do

was stand by his belief and stand by his people, defend his people when they needed him the most.

And what would happen? They picked him up. He knew he was going to be arrested.

He's running a newspaper.

Exactly.

And they said, stop it.

And he said, no.

Well, it's actually incredibly, is actually incredible.

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