This is not an update episode of Frozen Truth.

This is a thought experiment, I guess.

Dealing with our season 4 case, the 1996 disappearance of Sandra and John Jacobson from Bismarck, North Dakota.

That's coming up next.

I want to go over something that bothers me a lot about the Sandra and John Jacobson

disappearance.

This is our season four case of Frozen Truth.

This week, we passed the anniversary date to the commemoration date of Sandra and John's

disappearance, November the 16th. The year was

1996. And we've covered the basics of the case so far earlier in the year, earlier in the season,

of Season 4 Frozen Truth. Just for a brief recap, because it has been a while since we've released

an episode. Sandra and John lived in Center, North Dakota.

Sandra was 36 at this time.

John was five years old.

That night before, Sandra took John to her parents' house.

Sandra, as we've discussed earlier, had a history of mental illness.

And when she arrived at the house, her parents recognized in her

some of those symptoms. And so her parents, who have since both passed away, implored her to go to a

hospital and they would watch John. And Sandra agreed, but she first insisted on going to get gas.

In some kind of a compromise, I guess, her parents were thinking they allowed her to go get gas, not just her, but she took John with her to go get gas.

We've talked to the first investigator on this case, Tim Turnbull, of Bismarck PD.

He says they do have a receipt of her going to a gas station to get gas, but then Sandra

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