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They Walk Among Us - UK True Crime

Season 4 - Episode 29

They Walk Among Us - UK True Crime

They Walk Among Us

True Crime

4.66.6K Ratings

🗓️ 25 December 2019

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

PLEASE LISTEN TO ‘SEASON 4 - EPISODE 27 & EPISODE 28’ FOR PART ONE AND TWO OF THIS FOUR-PART CASE. 


In November 2002 there appeared to be some movement on the case. Following a speech by the queen, it was announced there were plans to remove the double jeopardy law across England and Wales in which a person could not be tried twice for the same offence. The changes announced were retrospective which meant that the murders at Wild Park could be reinvestigated. (Part 3 of 4).

*** LISTENER CAUTION IS ADVISED AS THIS EPISODE CONTAINS ADULT THEMES AND DESCRIPTIONS THAT SOME LISTENERS MAY FIND DISTRESSING *** 

 

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COURT DOCUMENTS and information from the following news organisations, magazines and books were referenced in this episode: BBC NEWS, THE GUARDIAN, THE ARGUS, BRIGHTON AND HOVE INDEPENDENT, ITV NEWS, BRIGHTON AND HOVE NEWS, DAILY MAIL, THE OBSERVER, LIVERPOOL ECHO, ABERDEEN EVENING EXPRESS, NEWCASTLE EVENING CHRONICLE, NEWCASTLE JOURNAL, SANDWELL EVENING MAIL, ABERDEEN PRESS AND JOURNAL, READING EVENING POST, IRISH INDEPENDENT, EVENING HERALD, ‘Real Life Crimes… and how they were solved’ magazine, and ‘The Babes In The Woods Murders’ by Paul Cheston. 

 

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Flecks of Light by The Tower of Light

Stories About the World That Once Was by Chris Zabriskie

Take Off and Shoot a Zero by Chris Zabriskie

Land on the Golden Gate by Chris Zabriskie

Contact by Tower of Light

Worse by The Tower of Light

Dreamer by DivKid

Procession by Puddle of Infinity


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0:00.0

Welcome to season 4 episode 29 of The Walker Mungers.

0:22.1

Report cards dedicated to UK True Crime.

0:34.8

Please listen to season 4 episode 27 and episode 28 for part 1 and 2 of this four-part case.

0:58.5

This episode contains adult themes and descriptions that some listeners may find distressing.

1:19.6

After Nicola Follows murder in 1986, a parent Susan and Barry moved to London with Jonathan,

1:27.3

their remaining child. Due to the unimaginable strain put on the couple, their marriage did not last,

1:35.2

and they divorced. They blamed each other. Susan would tell the August newspaper.

1:42.4

The whole family went through hatred, revenge, and all the grief you go through when you finally accept

1:49.2

she isn't going to be with you anymore. It is like multiplying your worst case scenario by a thousand.

1:58.5

People tell you it will get easier, but it doesn't. We just try to cope in any way we can.

2:05.4

Susan campaigned for changes to the law. She lobbied home secretary at the time David Blunkett

2:15.0

to ensure that any person who has been convicted of a sex crime against children

2:20.2

carry out their sentence in full if they have not completed therapy and are still deemed a risk

2:26.5

to the public. Susan handed a 40,000-name petition to Downing Street. Along with her brother in

2:34.8

law Nigel Heffron, Susan told the home secretary that she wanted justice for her daughter Nicola

2:41.5

and sought an internal report produced on the wild park murders. Nigel Heffron was so appalled by

2:48.8

the crimes that he suggested bringing back the death penalty. What deterrent is there to stop people

2:56.0

snatching children off the street he said? Nothing has changed since the Maul's murders, since

3:01.9

Nicola's death, or that of Sarah Payne. Life imprisonment does not mean life, and we want to see a

3:09.1

proper public debate and referendum on the return of the death penalty for child murderers.

3:15.2

These people must know the consequences of their actions. I would vote for the death penalty.

3:21.7

But what we are asking for is a proper debate and refer random.

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