I used them also as experts for all those big fights, and they were interested.

I mean, they had seen certain fights on TV, but they laughed the stories about the heavyweights.

I mean, imagine I was ringside for Bo Holyfield 2, with a fan man.

I was ringside when the riots started at Madison Square Garden.

Bo, Golota 1, and I mean, remember, Vitaly couldn't believe it when I told him the story about that riot, yeah?

Vitaly, relax, relax. Everybody thinks you are the winner.

You are the winner. You will see. You are the winner of this fight, in the head of the people, in the media.

And I was right. That was the fight where he redeemed himself.

I cannot believe that Vladimir did not hit him at that moment. I can't believe it. I cannot believe that, yeah?

I mean, imagine someone spitting in your face, I mean, the reaction, the automatic reaction is that they will hit the guy.

Hello, and welcome to Box and Life Stories with me, Kristik.

What happened in the ring after the Tyson Olikovic was Charles Flake in bed to laugh, instead of Goosebumps this day?

Oh, I just couldn't take the tear ice from his eyes, or the smile of his face, could he? I know.

And in the evening, we look back, Alka Bond.

Me, she's going to beat you all night.

He has a winning, and he has nothing else.

Hello, and welcome back to Box and Life Stories with me, Kristiks, and delighted to say this week I'm joined by the incomparable burnt Bonte.

many of you will know Burnt from his time at the helm with the Klitschko brothers, Vladimir and Vitaly Klitschko, former World Heavyweight Champions, and Burnt was in many ways a spokesperson of that group, the spokesman, if you ever wanted a quote about the Klitschko's, not from the Klitschko's, but about them, he would be able to give it to you, and I suppose for many years, I suppose for, I cross paths with Burnt regularly, and I think we even stayed in touch even when I was sort

of having my period away from the sport, I've always enjoyed Burnt's company, I think he's a very straight shooter, he's always sort of answered questions directly, he's not your normal typical boxing political figure, and I think that probably comes from his passion for the sport, and I think it's a cliche to say everyone's passionate about the sport, but when you listen to Burnt's backstory here, I think we're about a half an hour in before, there's a real serious

mention of the Klitschko's, it goes to show that Burnt has been around the sport for a long period of time, and he did break into the sport because it was his passion.

This isn't a guy who was a businessman who then lucked into a meeting with the Klitschko's, this is a guy who's been involved with the sport at many levels, initially as a fan like so many of us, and obviously his journey means he's still involved with the sport, but obviously it was that period of, you know, ten years later,

period of, you know, 10 years or more with the Klitschko brothers that was brilliant and

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