It's not as simple as it sounds because I remember him like he was walking walk through the hall. He said, Johnny, I'm going to New York.

It was on the Wednesday. I'm going to New York, Friday. I want you to come with me, pack your bag and all Saturday, we can go to Connecticut. I'm going to tell you pro. He just turned around the walk away. I'm like, wait, what?

I did. It was like a balloon pop. But it made it like a bittersweet victory because you want to be happy.

Yeah. He really is really a moment degree type of thing.

He is the one who put it in our head. Everybody that we fight. Listen, he said, listen, everybody. He said we crunch.

He said, man, you want us to go out there, right? Everybody. You getting them out of here. I don't care who they are. We getting them out of here. We're going to hurt everybody. We're going to get them out of here. We ain't going to this with nobody.

Hello, and welcome to Boxing Life Stories with me, Kristik. What happened in the ring after that? He's facing only good with his child's play compared to that.

Instead of going to this day. You couldn't take the tears from his eyes or the smile of his face, could you? I know.

He's beating me. He said, what are you doing back there? And the baby didn't make me look like alcohol porn.

He's winning. And there's nothing else.

Hello, welcome back to Boxing Life Stories. This week I'm joined by former cruiserweight contender Jonathan Banks,

who has become a cronk store war for several decades, carrying on the work of the late great Emanuel Steward as a trainer.

Banks was a fine fighter, but his path took him into training before he was done as a boxer.

When Steward became ill, Jonathan picked up the reins of Vladimir Klitschko and others.

And he took a break from training, Ganadi Glovkin recently, for his trilogy fight with Sal,

Canelo Alvarez, to record this podcast. Banks was funny and interesting with a real passion and historical perspective in talking all things cronk,

to Troy Emanuel Steward, and much more. And I really enjoyed this conversation.

A reminder guys, as I do say, sometimes from time to time, I do have a Patreon account,

and you can follow me at patreon.com forward slash Tristix and to get these episodes early and advanced.

And there's also plenty of episodes of ringside rewind up there, the new podcast with myself,

John Rawling and Ian Dark. I have been under the cost of late working on warrior, Matthew Saab,

a champion's incredible search for his identity, which many of you all know has been a project that's close to my heart.

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