People need to know the real James Scott, the only thing they know about James Scott is James Scott the prisoner and that's what I told his sister Laurie. I said, you know, um, I don't want to talk to you about James the prisoner.

I want to talk to you about James the person James the brother, you know, I need to know that side of him.

You've got to help me. I said, well, what can I do to help him around?

I want to charge admission to the general public to come into your prison, maximum security prison to watch a fight.

And in fact, you know, Chris on on the day of a fight.

Walking through that prison was like walking through a section of Madison Square Garden inmates walking around talking about the fight betting cigarettes.

Who's going to win? Who's going to lose and there wasn't a bit of thought about any kind of trouble about anything.

They just couldn't wait till that night till the fight and that's that's the way that the program not only helped help the people in the program.

The people helped inmates because they really changed behavior. A lot of behavior change stress. Really it.

Again, I go back to my apartment. He said it was like talking to kids at camp. It wasn't prison.

Hello and welcome to boxing life stories with me.

What happened in the ring after tasting only good was his child's play compared to that.

Instead of going to this day.

You couldn't take the tears from his eyes or the smile of his face, couldn't you?

I know.

He said, one let's go in back and a baby let me look back. Alconpone.

This is going to be your night.

Is winning and is nothing else.

Hello, welcome back to boxing life stories with me Tristics and I am finding all rather surreal this week.

You know, I often get asked who would be sort of one of the one of my favorite guests or who's on the wish list for guests and boxing life stories.

Yeah, I could say Oscar de la Hoya, Sugar Ray Leonard, James DeGale, David Hay,

Frotch, Maclean. There's loads of people that I'd love to speak to and do big deep

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