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Making Gay History | LGBTQ Oral Histories from the Archive

Season 3: Episode 1: Sylvia Rivera — Part 2

Making Gay History | LGBTQ Oral Histories from the Archive

Making Gay History

Sexuality, Personal Journals, Health & Fitness, History, Society & Culture

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 22 October 2017

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Welcome back to Sylvia Rivera’s kitchen, for the second part of a never-before-heard interview from 1989. Pull up a chair for a conversation with the trans rights pioneer as she reflects on a life of activism while cooking a pot of chili. Visit our episode webpage for background information, archival photos, and other resources. For exclusive Making Gay History bonus content, join our ⁠Patreon community⁠. ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Eric Marcus and welcome to my decades old audio archive to bring you the voices of

0:25.2

LGBTQ history. For the start of this new season, we're bringing you the second part of a conversation

0:31.2

I had with Sylvia Rivera back in 1989.

0:35.2

Sylvia talked about her memories of the Stonewall Uprising and how she left home in 1962

0:39.9

when she was only 11 years old.

0:41.9

If you haven't already heard that episode,

0:44.1

I urge you to have a listen.

0:46.4

So here's the second part of that conversation

0:48.2

in Sylvia's Tenement Department Kitchen

0:50.1

in North Tarotown, New York.

0:51.9

It's Saturday evening, December 9, 1989.

0:55.0

Sylvia's friend Rennie has just left for work.

0:58.0

On Rennie's way out, she asked Sylvia to save her a drink for when she gets back. Sylvia promises that of course she would,

1:04.0

but as soon as Rennie is out the door,

1:06.0

Sylvia pours herself another generous glass of vodka

1:08.0

from a bottle that is already well on the way to being emptied.

1:12.0

Sylvia's boyfriend Frank is in the next room watching TV.

1:16.0

Frank. Frank.

1:31.1

Frank, what are you doing? I just realize you have to go and buy me some tomato sauce. I've got to a tomato sauce for the tilly. So could you go around and get that?

1:37.0

And, huh? Pick up a couple cans, you know. Yeah, nice cans, not the little ones.

1:46.0

Yeah, the jars.

1:47.0

No, not any millies, I need tomato sauce.

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