Season 2 Update: Five Years Later

In The Dark

The New Yorker

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.7 • 28.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

After nearly twenty-three years behind bars, Curtis Flowers was freed, in part due to In the Dark’s reporting. Now he’s back in Winona, Mississippi, where his saga began. What brought him home, and how is he doing? We visited him to find out.

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0:00.0	Hey, it's Madeline. Before we get to the episode, there's something I want to tell you.
0:04.6	You want to make sure to follow the In the Dark feed because later this month, we're launching an entirely new series that members of our team have been working on with an incredible New Yorker writer.
0:15.2	I've been listening to the episodes as they've come together, and I can't wait for you to hear them.
0:19.8	As always, the best way to support our show is to become a subscriber to the New Yorker.
0:25.3	It's seriously so important. It's how we're able to keep making this work.
0:29.9	You can get a special subscription offer and a free tote bag by signing up at
0:34.8	new yorker.com slash dark.
0:38.3	And thank you.
0:39.7	Now on to the episode.
0:46.6	It is strange to be back.
0:48.9	Yeah, it is.
0:50.5	So far it looks the same.
0:52.1	Just the same.
0:53.0	Yeah.
0:55.0	A few months ago, I drove with our producer, Samara Freemark, to a familiar town.
1:00.6	All right.
1:02.1	Here's our exit.
1:03.8	We turned on to a familiar street.
1:06.0	I believe they're just right down here, right?
1:09.2	If memory serves.
1:10.7	Yep. And pulled up in front of a familiar White House with dark shutters. They're just right down here, right? If memory serves, yep.
1:11.6	And pulled up in front of a familiar white house with dark shutters.
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