You're about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about the

podcast I work on. I'm Dan Clark and I commissioned factual podcasts at the BBC.

It's a massive area but I'd sum it up as stories to help us make sense of the forces shaping the world.

What podcasting does is give us the space and the time to take brilliant BBC journalism

and tell amazing compelling stories that really get behind the headlines.

And what I get really excited about is when we find a way of drawing you into a subject

you might not even have thought you were interested in.

Whether it's investigations, science, tech, politics, culture, true crime, the environment,

you can always discover more with a it on a Monday, because Martin's back. Yeah, you've taken it to a different level and finished you. Well, I've been away. Our little cupboard has I feel bad in the way

because you've got a guest on and I wanted to make it like it normally is, but it's just not possible.

That's a bit different, isn't it?

Yeah.

Your words to me when I walked in to this private member's bar with coaches and normally cameras four cameras two producers

we usually have one and a genuine a font we have usually filming this

occasionally a producer occasionally a producer if they can be bothered but your words to me were we've got

to do this because you got somebody far more famous than you in today's so maybe have you

taken into a different level in famous I know value, I know your value and I know the

value of the guy who's with us, which is why I haven't made him come to the BBC because

six months ago, he'd have walked in, he'd have walked in he'd have walked out it would have been fine it

would all have been good and then he went and won the blooming tour how are you

you all right very good things yeah yeah thanks for no thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks for You're right? Very good, thanks, yeah. Yeah. Thanks for, the only reason why you're on is because you listen.

Yeah, and to abuse George North.

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