When we received a message from a listener about embracing white identity, we knew we had to talk with her.

Today we're taking the Friday feedback to a new level as we discuss race and politics with Tamalib Leilock.

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So we're about to share with you, I think it's fair to call it a conversation instead of an interview, a conversation with our listener Tamalib Leilock.

Who frequently shares just incredibly thoughtful and truly enlightening messages.

And we wanted to have her voice heard with our broader community.

My name is Tamalib Leilock. I live in the Washington DC metro area.

I work in the trade association world.

And trade associations we represent support and lobby our respective industries so that can be anything from beverages to pharmaceutical companies.

I mean, the joking DC area is like there's an association for everything.

Like if you think of something, there's an association for it.

But I love it and I never knew it's what I always wanted to do and I will do it till I'm no longer here.

Good for you. It's nice to hear people talk about their careers that way.

Well, I feel like you've become a real guide for us in a lot of ways.

Whenever we get a message from you, it both sort of shakes my world and makes me feel very hopeful.

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