Season 11: Episode 6: Kathleen Boatwright

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🗓️ 8 December 2022

⏱️ 27 minutes

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When Kathleen Boatwright fell in love with a woman at church, she fell hard. But this was no carefree romance. The church was staunchly anti-gay. Kathleen was married to a man and had four children. She’d never had a relationship with a woman. As she told Eric in 1989, it was “Pentecostal hysteria.” Visit our episode webpage for background information, archival photos, and other resources, as well as a transcript of the episode. For exclusive Making Gay History bonus content, join our Patreon community. ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi History Makers, Eric here. A few months ago we launched Making Gay History's Patreon
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0:36.9	And thank you so much.
0:42.1	The way to acceptance was for everyone to think alike, and to know that God had something
0:47.1	definite to say about every day in every way, and so there was only one way to interpret
0:52.9	everything that happened or came into our life. Gays were to be pitted and hated.
0:59.9	Homosexual people are stereotypically effeminate men or overbearing man-hating women, and
1:09.5	they are people who simply have a confused identity, and if they would become a Christian
1:14.0	it would resolve their issue. Did you believe that? No, because I wanted to try it.
1:22.9	I'm Eric Marcus, and this is Making Gay History. In the late 1980s, when I was gathering
1:35.6	oral histories for my Making Gay History book, I had a few go-to questions for my interviewees.
1:42.0	Questions to help me get a sense of who they were in relation to themselves and the world
1:45.2	around them. Things like, when did you first realize you were different, or where were
1:50.3	you when Harvey Milk was assassinated, and were you aware of the stone while uprising
1:55.0	when it happened? In Kathleen Boatwright's case, the answer to that last question was a
2:00.2	decisive no. In June of 1969, Kathleen was diapering babies. She was 19, married to her
2:07.4	high school sweetheart, and had just given birth to their second child. Her life was about
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