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You're Dead to Me. We're the comedy podcast that takes history seriously. Also from the BBC

and presented by me, Greg Jenner. I should have told you that at the beginning. Sorry.

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Before we get started, if I could just give you a quick health of safety brief.

Yeah.

We're in a nondescript one-story block at Worminster Army barracks in the southwest of England.

As we drove in, we passed a huge military tank parked on the lawn outside.

What I would ask please, and this is really important, is you're on red passes,

so you have to be escorted everywhere you go in this

building. This is the British Army's key training hub for soldiers and officers. Any other

emergencies, don't worry about it, just do whatever we tell you to do. Up to now, we've heard

from the children fathered by British soldiers, their mothers and one father.

But there is one perspective we haven't heard.

After months of communication with the UK Ministry of Defence, they have agreed to an interview with Brigadier Simon Ridgeway, the commanding officer for the collective training group.

The producer Josephine and I talked to the brigadier as my colleague set up

our cameras. He knows the British Army training unit Kenya, or Batuk as it's called,

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