Searching for an Offramp to a Reckless, Irresponsible War

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Chris Cotnoir

Government

4.5 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2026

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Trump is looking for a way out of this war, right? It seems as though the President is starting to realize that this war is an unmitigated disaster and is searching for the perfect offramp. But a clean exit might not be possible anymore. Rosa Brooks and Ed Luce join David Rothkopf to examine the possible next steps for this administration and why Iran might not be interested in what Trump’s selling. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:19.3	Hello and welcome to Deep Say Radio. I am your host, David Rothkoff, joined by two of your
1:24.2	favorite regulars, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University Law Center. How are you doing,
1:29.4	Rosa? I'm enjoying the apocalypse, David. Well, no one is better prepared for the apocalypse than you.
1:38.5	You have been waiting for it your whole life. We're also joined by our friend Ed Luce of the Financial Times. How do you like a good
1:46.8	apocalypse, Ed? It used to be a West End play called Oh, What a Lovely War. I think it should be a new one.
1:53.9	Oh, what a lovely apocalypse. Every day. Every day there's something new. So, you know, I've been talking to people who are like active in the Middle East. Some who are there, some who are here. Senior level kind of people who understand what's going on, because I don't understand what's going on. You know, the president says we're talking, we're not talking, we're sending in troops, we're not sending in troops. The Iranians say they're not talking. Then maybe we're talking,
2:22.0	maybe we're talking to the Pakistanis, or we're talking to the Americans, maybe we would like
2:26.2	to have J.D. Vance as the interlocutor instead, you know, there's all these conflicting stories.
2:33.0	And so the question one has is, are we going to escalate or is there an off-rip?
2:39.6	And I'd just like before we, you know, sort of get into things, I'd like to get your sense of that.
2:45.4	Ed, what's your sense of that?
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