Summary
You don’t know what seapunk is. We don’t know what seapunk is. Even seapunks don’t know what seapunk is. Well at least, most of them don’t. It all started with a guy named Lil’ Internet and his dream of a barnacle-adorned leather jacket. Quickly evolving (or devolving, depending on how you look at it) into a much-talked-about, less-practiced internet subculture helmed by two rather dogmatic blue-haired musicians. While even they couldn’t define seapunk, which shares elements from just about every other early 2010s subculture, it became the subject of a slew of self-indulgent thinkpieces and a whole lot of internal naval-gazing and gatekeeping. No one, not even Azealea Banks, was safe from their pitchforks (or tridents). But in this episode, Hannah and Maia ask: is sea punk even about the sea? Is it even punk? And why did this subculture sink so early into its watery grave? Tangents include: the Bath & Body Works renaissance, buying gifts for teenagers, and Maia’s neglected goldfish Chloe.
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| 0:00.0 | I spent Christmas in Ireland with some extended family, including two of my teenage cousins. And I was like, guys, what's hip with the youth? Like, what are the kids into these days? Because I was trying to shop for them. And I was like, I can get a teenage girl a Christmas present. Like, I'm a teenage girl. I know what's cool. I know what they like. And then I was like, I'm old, actually. And I went to Urban Outfitters and I was like, I don't know where to go or what to do or what they'll want. |
| 0:29.0 | I've also gone to Urban Outfitters for my nieces, and it's just like, I feel like I just walked into an alternate universe. |
| 0:34.8 | Like, I have no idea what's going on. |
| 0:36.4 | I'm looking at everything, and I'm like, huh, is this something they would like? |
| 0:39.9 | And it just feels like an alternate universe. Like, I have no idea what's going on. I'm looking at everything and I'm like, huh, is this something they would like? And it just feels like I'm guessing. And I'm like, I'm not that old. But like, I think that's what my parents literally used to do for me is like in high school. They're like, she likes urban outfiters. We'll buy her something from there. But it was a stab in the dark. and I think they didn't really have a sense of what I was actually into because, you know, they weren't 16 year old girls. And yeah, |
| 0:54.6 | I found myself in that position and it was really scary. And I have no idea. What were you seeing? |
| 0:59.5 | What were you seeing in the store to walk us through it? It wasn't so much that urban outfiters was |
| 1:05.1 | like that foreign to me. It was kind of, right now, |
| 1:10.0 | it's really sunny, angel, miffy, cutesy-centric, lots of bills on everything still. The Unif look. |
| 1:13.3 | Yes, like that's still kind of prominent. Like, nothing I was seeing in Urban Outfitters was putting me off. |
| 1:24.0 | It was more just that like I didn't know what I would pick up that they'd be like, |
| 1:29.9 | oh, that's actually lame and not cool and we don't like that. |
| 1:34.2 | And so I just was like scared about being completely out of touch with the youth. But I guess that's how life works. |
| 1:38.0 | It's actually about your own ego a lot of the time. Oh, for sure. For sure. Because I thought |
| 1:45.2 | that this would be the easiest gift for me to shop for. And it wasn't. But then I was talking to my |
| 1:50.5 | cousins and I was like, what's cool? What are you into? And my 15 year old cousin was like, bath and bodyworks, |
| 1:56.0 | Victoria's Secret. And then like, she has a Pandora charm bracelet. And I was like, I'm sorry, |
| 2:03.3 | is it 2010 before like I started liking alternative music? Is this, this, I feel like I've |
| 2:09.0 | stepped into a different universe. And then I was like, |
| 2:15.2 | I had a bath and bodywork scent when I was about your age. And it was like pink champagne, |
| 2:18.0 | something. And she was like, champagne toast. And I was like, that's still a thing. And she had a |
| 2:23.3 | whole collection of Victoria's secrets, like scents and stuff. It was wild. What's the other? |
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