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This is the journalism that I think so many people, not just in Britain and the US, but around the world despise, is when you try to create clickbait moments so that you can have a viral moment. It's, look, I've said it very clearly. I wrote a book about it that on that first day, I wasn't as articulate as I could have been. I think we focused on the wrong things. I've made it very clear. I make no apologies for the fact that I would, as you said, and I've said it publicly like a do-over because I wasn't as clear as what we should have been talking about that day. Wait, when you say you weren't as clear, when you say you weren't as clear? Let me finish that. Okay, but just clarify what weren't as clear means. Let me finish. What I said is, I would like a do-over because I did a disservice to the president. And I think, frankly,

the administration shouldn't have started off on that tone. That was Sean Spicer, former press

secretary to Donald Trump. And he's reminding us what he said, the day after Trump's inauguration,

when he basically made up stuff about the size of Donald Trump's inauguration crowd.

That is all in the past, but Sean Spicer is back with his own show, Sean Spicer's show.

And today I talk to him about Trump, truth, and what it felt like to be his mouthpiece for so long in the White House. Welcome to the

Newsagents USA.

It's Emily. And it's John, not in Newsagents HQ.

Sadly, not in Newsagents HQ.

If you can hear the gentle chirping of birds, the lapping of waves, the swirling of a little parasol in a coconut-based cocktail that is John Sopel today.

But we are going to...

Hold on.

It's Newsagents USA and I am on the correct side of the Atlantic, if not in the United States of America.

Exactly right. Okay. Listen, we are going to talk to and with Sean Spicer in a moment all about his time working as Donald Trump's press secretary in the White House.

But we're not going to start there.

We're going to start in neither the USA nor the UK for this one.

We are going to talk about what's been happening in the Middle East, in Gaza, the release of the hostages.

And try and put that into the perspective of what we know about the US political scene right now,

because last week, if you were with us, we talked about the damage that was being done

to the coalition of Democrats that were supporting Joe Biden, particularly amongst the young,

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