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Welcome to the athletic football show.

Great show for you guys today.

Tashon Reed, our Raiders writer at The Athletic, is going to be joining us a little bit later.

We are very excited about a narrative podcast series that Deshaun has been working on for, I don't know,

the better part of a year, looking at just the history of race and its impact on the NFL at

large and the structures in place in the NFL.

We have episodes on players, executive coaches, and then looking at the current hiring cycle.

DeShan has done a fantastic job with Between the Lions, which is what we're calling the series.

So very excited to intro that to you and intro you to the work that he is doing.

Before we get into that, though, I am thrilled to welcome to help me break down some

big news today, our good friend Nate Tice. Nate, how you doing, buddy? I'm doing well.

I guess I got some homework in for a pod we'll be doing at a later date because this is a,

this is our first like emergency pod? Like our emergency live pod. I think it might be because I think it is. We don't do that emergency pods because we record every day. So back in a time where I didn't do this every day, sometimes you had to break in case for emergency. You'd be like, all right, it's time to react to this because we're not record until Wednesday. That's not really how it works over here on the athletic football show. But for the first time that I can remember, usually happens the other way where we finish recording.

It's like 4.18 p.m. It's like, man, that was a mediocre show. Good job. And then 20 minutes passes and some huge piece of news breaks. And it's like, what are we going to do now? The show's already out. And is it worth going to do this? The exact opposite happens. We're sitting there getting ready to record a podcast about a topic that is not worth bringing up because we will discuss it later. And we get two huge bombshells immediately in a row. And then that show goes in the shitter and now we have to do this one. So good stuff. Yeah. It's dominoes. I think literally the first podcast we ever did, it happened to us because we did an emacy north preview. And then the trade, the Vikings traded for a Yonika. In Gakway. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you guys were like, hey, we got to re-record and I had no idea what I was doing. And I'm just like, yeah, okay, whatever you guys need me to do. Sure, I'll talk about it. But that was a peek behind the curtain for the first time for me. But I know usually it's like right like five minutes into a show and news breaks or like you said 20 minutes after so

I this is great but the the dot I felt like dominoes were getting set up like literally

there's that meme with the dominoes that like I just tweeted but there was also just

everything else that falls in the NFL season I mean this is every sports league so as soon as

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