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Hello and welcome to Making Sense of the Madness.

It's time to expand your thinking.

I'm your host, Sean Morgan, stepping in for John Michael Chambers while he's on a health

break.

And today we have a really great show for you.

We have an awesome guest, the author of Who Killed Epstein, Sean Atwood.

We're going to interview him here in just a few minutes.

But first,

let's get into the breaking news. So a leak exposes a global abuse of cyber spying to target politicians, activists, journalists, religious leaders, and plenty of other interesting people.

This is coming out of The Guardian. And this was a software firm based out of Israel

called NSO Group. They had a program called Pegasus. And they would sell this program. And it was

supposed to be for governments and militaries and intelligence agencies to spy on criminals.

But what ended up happening is governments,

authoritarian regimes, ended up using it to spy on journalists and other politicians and so forth.

Some of the targeted people were Arab royal family members, 65 business executives, 85 human

rights activists, 189 journalists, 600 politicians, and many heads of state and prime ministers around the world.

This is one of the biggest stories of the year, and you won't hear about it very much unless you look into it.

So check out this Guardian article where they dig into all of the details,

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