The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please to the call to mastery. I'm Jordan Rayner. This is a

podcast for Christians who want to do their most exceptional work for the glory of God and the good of others. Every week I host a conversation

with the Christian who's pursuing world-class mastery of their craft. We talk about their path to mastery, their daily habits,

and how the Gospel of Jesus Christ influences their work. Man today's episode is a fun

one.

Today I've got my friend Sean Devaro.

He's an executive producer and visual effects artist

for major films like Transformers. no big deal, Patriots Day, American Underdog, I could go on and on and on.

Sean and I talked about a lot of fun stuff about how the Wicked Witch of the West traumatized both of our

childhoods. We talked about how the Oscar process works and why you need to

kill your backup plans for your work today.

You're going to love this episode.

Please enjoy it with Sean Devaro. Sean Deborah welcome to the podcast.

Welcome to the podcast.

Thank you for having me Jordan very glad to be here.

So I gotta ask. We're recording this like I don't know a week or two after maybe the most

infamous Oscar event of all time. You're a member of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.

Were you there? Were you in the room for the slap? I'm glad to say I was not in the

room. I'm glad I wasn't one of the people that stood up and gave him a standing ovation when the award is one but with a crowd mentality

That's certainly something that could have happened especially on a night. That's so crazy and the cameras are everywhere. I'm really glad I can I'm not one of the people that says yeah I stood up at the end too so yeah.

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