Se7en: The Movie That Made Us Ask What’s in the Box- Episode #839
Zen Pop
Todd and Cathy Adams
4.9 • 637 Ratings
🗓️ 28 October 2025
⏱️ 84 minutes
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Cathy and Todd discuss Se7en, David Fincher’s dark and unforgettable thriller. They talk about how the movie came together from the casting of Brad Pitt and Morgan Freeman to the decision to keep Kevin Spacey’s role a secret, and how Fincher’s style changed what crime movies could be. They also dig into the story’s moral questions, the infamous ending, and why Se7en still hits just as hard today as it did in 1995. They also talk about how the film shaped Fincher’s career and how the seven deadly sins still show up in our culture.
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| 0:00.0 | If I may speak freely, this should not be his first assignment. |
| 0:04.0 | I've worked homicide five years. |
| 0:05.0 | Not here. |
| 0:06.0 | For how long have you lived here? |
| 0:08.0 | Too long. |
| 0:10.0 | 911. |
| 0:12.0 | What's your emergency? |
| 0:14.0 | No faint of prince. |
| 0:16.0 | No witnesses of any kind. |
| 0:18.0 | No. |
| 0:19.0 | It means that this is beginning all right is that enough there are seven |
| 0:26.5 | deadless end up gluttony greed pride sloth wrath lust and envy is the last one that's the last one that they do. Well, John Doe didn't do it in order. No, he didn't. Because Wrath was his last one. And here we thought that he was organized. Good old John Doe. He did him in his own order. That's why they didn't catch on until he let them catch on. I think after greed they caught on. He's in complete control |
| 0:56.7 | pretty much of the entire movie. Hi, my name's Todd Adams. I'm with Zen Pop Parenting. Yeah, me too. |
| 1:02.5 | And Zen Pop Parenting is where Gen X pop culture meets real life reflection. That's right. And on today's |
| 1:08.5 | show, we're doing a little upbeat movie called Seven. |
| 1:12.4 | It's so funny because Seven to me is similar to Silence of the Lambs. |
| 1:17.5 | Yes, I get it. It's scary. There's parts of it that I don't watch. They're gross. But it doesn't |
| 1:21.8 | terrify me in the way it terrifies other people. There's other movies that terrify me. I watched this last night, |
| 1:28.6 | again, in the dark by myself while doing crossword puzzles. Like I'm not, I'm kind of unaffected. Was it really in the dark? Yeah. Oh, wow. Because I look, I took some videos. Well, no. I was going to say, there's a flaw in your thinking. There is. How do you do crossword puzzles in the dark? I had, I had all the lights, overhead lights off, and then, you know, that lamp in the gray chair. |
| 1:47.5 | I had all the lights, overhead lights off, and then, you know, that lamp in the gray chair, I had that on my crossword puzzle. There you go. So you're right. It wasn't pitch dark, but I was not. My point is, it's less about my light and more about it. Maybe I just seen it too many times yeah i mean this is |
| 2:02.0 | 1995 that's 30 years i know and just like a hot take right off the bat hold on let me get a |
| 2:08.3 | hot take action okay boy it's hot this is hot this hot in Brooklyn okay okay so my hot take is this |
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