Welcome to the Scuffed Podcast. I'm Adam Bells in Minneapolis. With me is Greg Velasquez and

Des Moines. We talk about U guest today. Ken Richards. He lives near Birmingham, Alabama and he's the

father of Chris Richards, one of the top young American centerbacks who plays for

Byron Munich's reserves in Germany's third division. Ken had thanks for getting on the phone. Thanks

for making time. You're welcome. Thank you for having. Absolutely. So I've been wanting to speak with you for a while now about some things that we will get to, but you know what really got me, prompted me to message you was your tweet about Chris and about in relation to the

what happened to George Floyd here in Minneapolis as everyone knows he was

murdered by a police officer and so I wanted I wanted to ask you about that you know

You tweeted that sometimes you fear for Chris's life when he's home in Alabama when he goes out at night

Can you can you talk about that a little bit?

Yeah, and it's honestly it's not just just Alabama. I mean, it's just kind of in America in general.

You know, just because of the interaction that people of color, you know, seem to have with the

police officers sometime and it happens, you know, more times than it should.

And so when he goes out yeah it's hard for me to

sleep and be at peace until I know he's home you know because I I've had to talk with him how to conduct himself if he should be pulled over by an officer.

And, but yet and still, as you can see with quite a few of the instances that have happened in the last year or so,

that's still not enough.

You can do everything that you're supposed to do and, you know, it can still go wrong. So I always worry about him when he's home and you know and it's to me it

really upsets me and it disappoints me the fact that it bothers me more for him to go hang out and be out when he's here as opposed to when he's halfway across the world in another country that it's not his home country.

I'm more at ease with him being there than I am when he's here.

Yeah, that's crazy and you know and he's in a country that doesn't have a great history with racism obviously but

Exactly exactly I assume go ahead. I'm sorry. I'm sorry no no you go. I was gonna say and that's you know to me that is the crazy thing because you know who would think that I'll feel more comfortable with him being in Germany like you said with that history you know back with

Hitler and everything in the Nazis. I just feel like it's very

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