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The Politics Guys

Scrubbing History, Redefining DEI, Ukraine War

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.5 • 772 Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

Jay and Justin open this supporters’ midweek episode with a look at the Department of Defense's efforts to remove DEI-tagged historical content from its websites, sparking backlash and broader questions about how diversity, equity, and inclusion policies are defined and implemented. They discuss whether this was merely an administrative blunder or a deliberate action, exploring the nuances and potential political motivations behind this move. Jay argues for a conservative redefinition of DEI—celebrating individual achievement rather than group identities—while Justin highlights the complexities and misunderstandings surrounding DEI initiatives across institutions. In the second half of the episode, Jay and Justin shift gears to the ongoing conflict in Ukraine, examining former President Trump's recent attempts at negotiating a partial ceasefire. They unpack the complications of the "mostly peaceful" ceasefire and express skepticism about the sincerity and effectiveness of such agreements given continued aggression. They contemplate the broader geopolitical implications, considering how the international community, especially China, may interpret these developments. Both Jay and Justin acknowledge the war's eventual resolution will likely require uncomfortable compromises, but doubt remains over how quickly—or effectively—these negotiations will proceed.   The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Mike’s Substack: What Fresh Hell is This? Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo we’re @PoliticsGuys. The Politics Guys is part of The Democracy Group, a network of podcasts that examines what's broken in our democracy and how we can work together to fix it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

atheists agnostics long-haired widows short-haired widows vandal

0:04.7

hooligans

0:05.3

Welcome to the government, hug the government, hug the government, love, the government, hug the government, love, the government, hug the government.

0:12.0

Welcome to the politics guys, a place for bipartisan, rational, and civil debate on American politics and policy.

0:18.8

Hello, and welcome to the politics guys, midwake show, midweek show.

0:23.3

Did I say midweek?

0:24.3

I'm kind of midwake.

0:25.7

That's sort of my sense of being right now.

0:29.1

I'm Jay Carson filling in for Mike Baranowski.

0:32.0

And with me today is Justin Holmes, professor of political science at the University of Northern Iowa. Welcome, Justin.

0:41.0

Hey, good to be here. And we've got some fun things on tap for us this week that we couldn't

0:48.1

quite get to at the regular show. First, talking about sort of the perils of trying to scrub

0:53.6

DEI, the good, the bad, and how this can be somehow ugly.

1:00.1

And that's, and then I think we'll also talk about Ukraine and the chances for peace and these sort of ceasefire sort of peace-ish negotiation that the President Trump is is working on getting done.

1:15.4

So, Justin, we'll lead off. Tell us what's going on with the Department of Defense's efforts to

1:21.6

scrub DEI.

1:23.0

So, yeah, there's been sort of people noticing people that follow these things, sort of

1:29.8

disappearing of a lot of historical documents, websites about historical events, etc.

1:36.6

Anything that can be flagged as DEI, sort of the more infamous one was the scrubbing of a website

1:42.6

about the Anola Gay.

1:45.0

Oops.

1:46.0

That apparently has been restored.

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