And then all of a sudden it went to, oh, wait.

So if I understand like at least basically what my brain is, I didn't, I kind of stopped

taking it personally.

I was like, wait, I'm depressed, not because I'm some like loser who doesn't have any friends.

I'm depressed because of X, Y, Z factor happening in my brain.

And that's where really things started to look like a science project from it.

They went from like this moral, ethical failure to like, huh, this is interesting.

I wonder what happens if I experiment.

I wonder what happens if I do this or I try this out.

What kind of output am I going to have?

Welcome to the Your World Within podcast. I'm Eddie Panero.

In this episode, I sit down with my friend Mark Metri.

Just an insightful, incredible guy.

A lot to share.

And you can definitely take a lot away from this conversation.

He is the host of the Top Rang podcast, Humans 2.0, where he's

interviewed a lot of exceptional people, you know, from CEOs to athletes to entertainers and

pulls out some great information from them. So make sure you check that out. He's got a new book,

a relatively new, I should say, called Screw Being Shy. He's been

featured on Amazon Prime's docu series, The Social Movement. He's a podcast consultant, just everywhere.

And it's really fun to sit down and talk about his journey, his progress from someone that was at one point, you know, very insecure,

very anxious, battled with depression, at one point said he didn't even have a will to live

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