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Wow, this person's trapped in the wrong story. And we got to get them out of that story.

My name is Kevin Miller. I'm the host of the Self-Helpful podcast.

So many of the books that we read about family relationships, it's based on a theory.

Join me as I curate and translate the most effective self-help wisdom to help you

elevate your personal experience and improve the way you show up for others.

What's up everybody. Welcome back to another episode of late night drive. My name is Ellie

Schmidt. I'm your host. I'm your driver. I am here with the beautiful friend of the show,

Claudia Vera. Hi. And welcome to the show. I completely forgot what I normally say in the intro.

What do I, what do I say? Oh, well, if if you're having a bad, if you're, I hope you're having a

good day and if you're having a bad day, you're in the right place. Yeah, that sounds right. What she

said. Yes. We're both a little silly today. Claudia just got back from a trip to Los Angeles where

she took for some reason a red eye flight home. You know, they said it was going to be cheaper

and I said in the moment, yes, this is great and didn't think about the emotional and physical

tax that it would take on me. When I was a little kid, we went to San Francisco because my aunt lives

there and my, my dad thought he had booked us on a seven a.m. plane home and he had booked us on

the seven p.m. plane home. Oh, my God. You know, seven and 10 year old on this flight. Like, we were,

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