All right. Hey, everybody. It's a bonus up. This is not your usually scheduled programming.

Lately, we've been doing a lot of bonus episodes and they have been, you know, me talking to some game

designer who is talking about a new product. This is a little more insular, this one. This is a little

more about, you know, a thing that's, I would say

in progress right now that you can join in on if you can get yourself to Kansas City, June 5th, 6th, and 7th for

the final intergalactical of the first season. But we wanted to look back and talk about things that

have already happened. So I'm here with a special guest.

Many titles for this person.

Elspeth has helped me run every single intergalactical.

None of the tournaments would run as smoothly as they have.

And actually, at this point, you've embedded yourself so deep into the way that they run.

I'm not really even sure how they would work without you anymore. And you're also the winner of the Orlando Intergalactical. I'm joined by Elspeth. Hello. Hello. How you do it? Also, you're not only that, but you also work for Wizards of the Coast, specifically on Magic the Gathering, right? Yep. I'm a game designer at Wizards of the Coast, specifically on Magic the Gathering, right?

Yep.

I'm a game designer at Wizards of the Coast, and then in my spare time, I do so much

Twilight Imperium.

Yes, big time.

So, yeah, so we were at the Orlando Intergalactical, and we were running that tournament.

Actually, do we want to talk a little bit about how our tournaments work?

And by that, I mean, do you want to talk a little bit about how our tournaments work?

Because I feel like people always ask a lot of questions.

And it could be that we've never, we've just never talked about exactly that on the podcast itself.

So it's like two days, qualifying days, but how do we know to make it all, you know,

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