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The Brian Lehrer Show

SCOTUS Weighs in on Pres. Trump's Deportations

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Kate Shaw, professor at the University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School offers legal analysis of how the Supreme Court is acting as a check on the president so far.

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Larry Show on WNYC.

0:13.3

Good morning again, everyone.

0:15.1

We continue to ask, is this what democracy looks like?

0:19.2

Are we moving from democracy to autocracy, bit by bit,

0:23.6

executive order by executive order, court ruling by court ruling, are we moving from DEI for

0:29.7

diversity, equity, and inclusion, to DEI for disappearances, erasures, and inequality?

0:36.6

Back with us now is University of Pennsylvania law

0:39.2

professor Kate Shaw, who is also co-host of the Legal Affairs podcast, Strict Scrutiny.

0:45.3

Kate, we always appreciate that you come on and apply your strict scrutiny with us on the law

0:50.8

and the courts and this year on that spectrum from democracy to autocracy that

0:55.8

really the courts are playing such a key and complicated role in. Welcome back to WNYC.

1:01.7

Thank you so much for having me back, Brian. And the court rulings keep on coming, including

1:05.9

increasingly now from the Supreme Court. We had ones just in recent days, I'll tell the listeners, from the High Court on the deportations of Venezuelan migrants without due process, on the suspension of teacher training grants, on the firing of so-called probationary workers.

1:23.4

Then there was a lower court ruling yesterday that said Trump violated the First Amendment,

1:28.6

freedom of the press, by barring the Associated Press from some presidential events

1:33.5

because they wouldn't bend to his dictate to rename the Gulf of Mexico, the Gulf of America.

1:38.8

And there are others.

1:40.2

There are so many we could get to in this segment with you, Kate.

1:43.4

Can you start with that last one I mentioned, though?

1:46.2

What court said what about the free press and the First Amendment?

1:50.6

Sure.

1:51.0

So, yeah, that was the most recent of the rulings that you just mentioned, Brian.

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