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Stay Tuned with Preet

SCOTUS to America: "You Deal With Him"

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Politics, Government, News

4.8 • 32.3K Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

In another 6-3 decision, the Supreme Court’s conservative majority limited district court judges’ power to issue nationwide injunctions. In an excerpt from this week’s Insider episode, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance break down the decision and its broad implications.  In the full episode, Preet and Joyce discuss the Justice Department’s lawsuit against all 15 federal district court judges in Maryland over an order pausing deportations in the state. Plus, a whistleblower complaint accusing one of Trump’s top DOJ officials—and now a judicial nominee—Emil Bove, of disregarding court orders. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it’s critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You’ll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe.  Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network.  Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Senior Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; Deputy Editor: Celine Rohr; CAFE Team: David Tatasciore, Nat Weiner, Noa Azulai, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey folks, Preet here. Joyce Vance and I are back with a new episode of The Insider podcast.

0:07.5

First, we discussed the Supreme Court ruling limiting district judges power to issue nationwide

0:12.2

injunctions and the ACLU's class action suit challenging the underlying birthright citizenship issue.

0:18.7

Then we break down the Justice Department's lawsuit against all 15

0:22.9

federal district court judges in Maryland over an order-posing deportations in the state. Finally, we turn

0:29.6

to a whistleblower complaint accusing one of Trump's top DOJ officials and now a judicial nominee,

0:35.6

Emma Boewe, of disregarding court orders and directing staff to do so as well.

0:40.8

If you're a member of Cafe Insider, head to the insider feed or click the link in the show notes of this podcast to hear the full analysis.

0:49.0

Stay tuned, listeners. Stick around for an excerpt from our conversation.

0:53.3

Members of Insider help support our work and get access to full episodes and other subscriber benefits.

0:59.4

Head to cafe.com slash insider or stay tuned.substack.com.

1:04.9

Now on to the show.

1:18.6

So the biggest legal news probably is the Supreme Court decision, 6-3, get used to it,

1:24.6

that has as its underlying issue, but it is not the issue that's been decided, which can be confusing to people,

1:30.4

but has as its underlying issue, the status of birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendment of the Constitution. And everyone seems to agree, as we've

1:37.1

discussed many times, that the Constitution from time immemorial to when that provision was adopted prescribes birthright

1:49.2

citizenship. The Trump administration put out an executive order like five minutes after his

1:54.7

inauguration that says their interpretation of birthright citizenship does not include people who were born to people

2:02.6

who are here illegally or are here in the country temporarily. But that's not the issue that was

2:08.4

front and square for the Supreme Court, right, Joyce? The issue is whether a district court,

2:14.3

you know, the trial court level, the lowest court in our three-tier system,

2:18.5

in deciding the issue, could enjoin, meaning stop, other jurisdictions from interpreting

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