Welcome to Words Matter with Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart.

Welcome to Words Matter, I'm Katie Barlow.

Our goal is to promote objective reality.

As a wise man once said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, not their own facts.

Have power and words have consequences.

We are so pleased to welcome back Emmy Award-winning producer and instructor of journalism

in the Department of Cinema, Television and Media at Belmont University, where this week's

final presidential debate will be held.

Prior to her work with Belmont, Jen was the White House producer for ABC News.

She was also the producer for CNN's Anderson Cooper 360, as well as a producer for Katie

Kirk's syndicated show in New York.

She also worked for the Oprah Winfrey Network in Los Angeles, and Jen's been a consultant

for Words Matter with us on and off since our launch in August of 2018.

Jen, welcome back to Words Matter.

Thanks for having me, Katie, this has been fun.

So, to our listeners this week, we're going to do something a little different

and I'm only slightly terrified of it, but I'm going to step back from my hosting duties

and let Jen take the lead in asking the questions.

Yeah, and this happened pretty organically.

So, in my previous life as a full-time journalist, I was glued to the TV as hearings would happen

live. But now that I teach at a university full-time, I have to break away and catch what I can

when I can, which I think is what a lot of people outside the beltway do because they have day jobs

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