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SCOTUS Decides Whether Christian Counselors Will Be Able to Help Children

Breakpoint

Colson Center

Religion & Spirituality, News Commentary, Politics, Culture, Christianity, Currentevents, Worldview, News

4.82.8K Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2025

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Summary

Colorado is co-opting professional counseling conversations to impose gender ideology on therapists.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Breakpoint, a daily look at an ever-changing culture through the lens of unchanging truth.

0:05.3

For the Colson Center, I'm John Stone Street.

0:09.3

Yesterday, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in Charles v. Salazar, case with profound

0:14.2

implications for free speech rights, as well as for those with gender dysphoria.

0:19.6

Haley Chiles is a licensed counselor in Colorado,

0:22.5

represented by the Alliance Defending Freedom,

0:24.8

she sued the state of Colorado over its counseling censorship law,

0:28.9

which prohibits counselors from helping clients, especially children,

0:32.7

reconcile their identity with their sex through talk therapy.

0:36.3

As the law now stands, counselors like

0:38.6

Childs face fines up to $5,000 for every violation. Child's claims that she has patients who

0:45.3

want to discuss issues that, as she put it, quote, implicate Christian values about human sexuality

0:51.3

and the treatment of their own body, while avoiding things like harmful

0:55.1

drugs and questionable medical procedures. Though Charles does not guarantee her clients that the

1:00.4

issues relating to gender identity, gender roles, or sexual attraction will be fully resolved,

1:05.9

she, quote, believes clients can accept the bodies that God has given them and find peace.

1:11.5

Charles contends that Colorado's law amounts to censorship and violates her First Amendment rights,

1:16.6

muscling her right to speak from her deeply held beliefs.

1:19.9

It restricts her from having conversations that her clients want to have about their struggles with sexuality and identity.

1:27.3

Colorado claims that the ban on so-called conversion therapy is based on, quote, overwhelming

1:33.1

evidence that efforts to change a child sexual orientation or gender identity are unsafe and

1:38.8

ineffective. In making that claim, the state relies on studies that have little follow-up on

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