From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

Welcome to the treatment. I'm Elvis Mitchell, and I'm thrilled to have a guest who have someone

I'm a big fan of Scott C. Burns, whose work

includes, of course, Contagion and the burn ultimatum, and his new film, the film is right,

a director of The Report, which had his premiere at Sundance this year and basically blew the roof

off the place and for good reason. Scott, thanks so much for being here.

Thanks for having me. What's so great about these things you do so often is that there's a central incident

from which everything comes out of.

And I've thought of these films as being basically the snowball rolling downhill

that consume the entire village.

Yeah, that certainly is the case here.

But basically, in so many things you've done, there's kind of an inexorable sort of momentum

of the truth for good or bad.

I mean, you tend to not make judgments about this, but this truth is this force that will

not be stopped.

And I guess I have to ask you, because it's so often been a through line

through your work where that comes from.

I'm not entirely sure where that comes from. You know, I grew up in Minnesota and somewhere

along the line, I think I just became really suspicious of narratives that seem to leave out really important facts.

And as we move into, you know, a thing that I can't believe that people are comfortable

just saying, oh, this is now a post-truth reality, because I don't know what that means.

And, you know, I just, I sort of desperately want

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