Gabriel Sherman's "The Apprentice" – Trump, Cohn, and a Legacy of Monstrous Deceit

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🗓️ 24 October 2024

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Gabriel Sherman discusses his new Trump biopic, The Apprentice, and the toxic bond between Roy Cohn and a young Donald Trump. He reflects on how Cohn’s influence shaped Trump’s political tactics and character, revealing a dark legacy of manipulation and corruption. Sherman also offers insight into the behind-the-scenes struggles surrounding the film, including Trump’s ultimately unsuccessful efforts to block its release—yet another predictable, calculated move. Follow Gabriel Sherman on X @GabrielSherman and find a local screening of the film “The Apprentice” at theapprenticemovie.com. Follow Rick Wilson at @TheRickWilson on X and subscribe to his Substack at therickwilson.substack.com. Join the fight with Lincoln Project at www.lincolnproject.us and follow us on X at @ProjectLincoln. And please subscribe, rate and review this podcast, thank you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey folks today on the Lincoln Project Podcast we have a rare spoiler alert.
0:03.7	Our guest today is Gabriel Sherman, the author of the phenomenal new movie The Apprentice,
0:08.8	which is about Donald Trump's younger years and his relationship with Roy Cohn, who shaped Trump's path to power and
0:14.4	Trump's dark twisted and frankly evil soul. But if you have not seen the
0:20.2	movie yet, be advised this contains heavy spoilers and I mean a lot of
0:25.4	heavy spoilers. If not, let's go. Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is
0:31.3	well trained, well equipped in battle heart.
0:34.0	There is not a liberal America and a conservative America.
0:38.0	There is the United States of America.
0:40.0	Good night and good luck. America.
0:45.0	Good night and good luck. Hey folks, welcome back to the Lincoln Project Podcast.
0:47.0	Our guest today is Gabriel Sherman.
0:48.0	He is the author of the tremendous new film The Apprentice.
0:53.4	This is Donald Trump. Yes.
1:03.0	Hello, this is Donald Trump from Mr. Cohn.
1:06.0	Thank you so much.
1:07.0	Donald who?
1:08.0	One, two, three four.
1:09.0	Roy Cohn, Roy Cohen,
1:14.0	nice to meet you.
1:15.0	The Roy Cohen, you're brutal.
1:16.8	Guilty as charge.
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