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Scott Frey: Brain Training For Ultrarunning (Sunday Conversation)

Singletrack

Finn Melanson

Wilderness, Sports, Trail Running, Ultramarathon, Ultra Running, Running, News, Sports News, Mountain Running, Ultrarunning

5.01.1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 December 2025

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

Scott Frey of Cerebral Performance joins the show for a deep dive into the next frontier of athletic performance. Scott believes the biggest breakthroughs of the coming decade won’t come from physiology alone, but from the brain and psychological sciences - and that belief anchors this conversation. Partners: Norda - check out the 005: the lightest, fastest, most stable trail racing shoe ever made (https://nordarun.com/)Precision Fuel and Hydration - use code SINGLETRACK at checkout for 15%...

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0:00.0

Welcome back or welcome to the Single Trek podcast. I'm your host, Finn Melanson, and in this episode,

0:05.7

we are joined by Scott Frey, who has a PhD in experimental psychology from Cornell University.

0:11.9

He's led brain imaging research centers for multiple decades and has since left academia to start coaching endurance athletes.

0:19.7

Scott is convinced that the greatest breakthroughs

0:22.0

in athletic performance over the next few decades will come from the brain and psychological sciences,

0:27.8

and that's where we base this conversation. Please note, Scott has made numerous podcast appearances

0:34.1

across our media landscape. For example, he has recorded a few excellent ones with Jason Koop on his show,

0:39.9

the Koop cast.

0:41.0

We hoped to be additive with this one.

0:43.2

So if you're wondering why we didn't talk about this or that,

0:45.2

well, it was probably covered thoroughly on Koop's episodes or somewhere else.

0:50.5

So yeah, other thing I'll say beforehand,

0:52.2

I typically don't do episodes related to the X's and O's of training and racing theory.

0:56.7

It's not really my lane, but this topic just fascinated me, and I felt compelled to chat with Scott and share this conversation.

1:03.6

Before we get started, thanks to Norda, the official footwear partner of the single track podcast and makers of my favorite trail super shoe the zero zero five head over to northerrun

1:12.2

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1:18.1

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1:22.6

nick thompson but this is a brand new partnership that i am very excited about they make best in in class products for our sport. They're trusted by many of the greats, including athletes like Caleb Olson, Rachel Drake, Hayden Hawks, Taper Hemming. Obviously, there's so much more to say for now. I've linked to their race planner in the show notes of this episode. It's one of the countless resources that they have on their site to educate ultra runners on how to

1:44.6

fuel and hydrate properly. We also have a discount code with them. If you use code single track at

1:49.1

checkout, you get 15% off your entire order. Thank you so much to the team at precision. I am so

1:54.5

excited as we head into 2026. With that, let's get to this conversation with Scott Frey.

2:00.1

Okay, so I have a fairly limited understanding of this space in our sport.

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