Welcome to Socrates in the studio.

It's my privilege right now to be talking to the incarcerated rapper Shug Night.

Gosh, you know, I always get that wrong. I apologize.

You're not Shug Knight. You're Scott Atlas, aren't you?

That's right.

Thank goodness. Because the question that we are talking about today is really what is liberty.

And I have wanted to talk to you about it because you seem, although you started life principally as a medical doctor, well, you professionally were a medical

doctor teaching at the medical school, at Stanford, and so on and so forth, but you've taken

a great interest in Liberty to the extent that you've founded the Global Liberty Institute.

So why don't we start Scott Atlas with, first of all, welcome.

And let's start with who you are and how you found yourself

being so concerned with liberty in our time, because's a lot there's a lot to cover.

Sure.

Well, thanks for having me first.

Thanks for not being Shug Night.

Well, that's a different conversation.

I would say my background is about 25 years of being a professor in academic medicine,

doing clinical work, teaching, and doing research for half of my career at University of Pennsylvania after graduating from University of Chicago Medical School.

And then the last half or about 14 years of being at Stanford University School of Medicine.

About a decade ago, I full time shifted into health care policy, quit the medical school,

because I thought it made sense for people who understand how health care is delivered,

the value of tertiary care medicine, medical technology, to be at the table not just dealing with spreadsheets of the

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