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The Good Fight

Scott Anderson on Why Iran’s Real Revolution Might Be Coming

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.7963 Ratings

🗓️ 10 January 2026

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Yascha Mounk and Scott Anderson discuss how economic collapse has created the conditions for regime change—and what this could mean for the country. Scott Anderson is a veteran war correspondent and a contributing writer at The New York Times Magazine. His latest book is King of Kings: The Iranian Revolution—A Story of Hubris, Delusion and Catastrophic Miscalculation. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Scott Anderson discuss whether the current protests could finally topple Iran’s theocratic regime, what role the Revolutionary Guard might play in determining the country’s future, and whether a democratic Iran could emerge from the ashes of the Islamic Republic. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following ⁠this link on your phone⁠. Email: ⁠leonora.barclay@persuasion.community⁠ Podcast production by Jack Shields and Leonora Barclay. Connect with us! ⁠Spotify⁠ | ⁠Apple⁠ | ⁠Google⁠ X: ⁠@Yascha_Mounk⁠ & ⁠@JoinPersuasion⁠ YouTube: ⁠Yascha Mounk⁠, ⁠Persuasion⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I would say that Iran probably has a better chance of actually emerging into a democracy than

0:36.3

most companies in the Middle East.

0:38.3

It has at least a parliamentary tradition, even though that parliament is largely been a rubber

0:43.0

stamp for a certain of the past century.

0:48.1

And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

1:02.8

There are some events in the world that fill you with great hope and also some amount of dread.

1:10.7

This is always how I feel when people are courageously streaming into the streets to protest against a brutal dictatorship.

1:18.8

It is all-inspiring that people are seeking that freedom, and you cannot help but hope that the aspirations will be fulfilled.

1:21.7

At the same time, you know that if a regime uses all of its force to beat them back, death at a significant scale of the most

1:31.8

courageous people may be the consequence. That's how I've been feeling for the last days,

1:35.8

as I've seen the growing and growing and growing protests in Tehran and all around Iran.

1:42.1

And so we have pushed the episode we had planned for today

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