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The Lawfare Podcast

Scott Anderson and Richard Gowan on the Disagreement in the Security Council on the Snapback of UN Sanctions on Iran

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🗓️ 19 August 2020

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Late last week, the UN Security Council voted down a resolution, offered by the United States, to indefinitely extend a conventional arms embargo on Iran set to expire in October. The lifting of the arms embargo was one of the sweeteners that was part of the Obama administration's Iran nuclear agreement. Now, the Trump administration has announced it will begin the process of triggering the snapback of UN sanctions on Iran using procedures outlined in UNSCR 2231—a move that could be the death knell for the Iran nuclear agreement. Margaret Taylor sat down with Lawfare senior editor Scott Anderson, and Richard Gowan, the UN director for the Crisis Group, an independent research and advocacy organization, to talk through the legal and political issues, as well as what will unfold on this matter in the weeks and months to come.

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no bull and the aftermath.

0:34.1

What we're seeing here really is a majority of security council members tiring of the Trump

0:40.6

administration's maximum pressure campaign against Iran.

0:45.4

Clearly from the beginning of his term and especially since 2018, President Trump has been attempting

0:52.4

to ratchet up pressure on the Iranians and that has included direct action like killing

0:58.1

the Soleimani but it's also included diplomatic efforts to unpick the JCPOA, the nuclear

1:05.3

deal that the Obama administration had designed.

1:09.2

Frankly that the real reason you think that the US has been really pushing on this issue

1:15.1

is because it wants to move forward and find an excuse to undermine the JCPOA completely

1:21.6

before the end of the president's first term.

1:24.6

I'm Margaret Taylor and this is the LawFair podcast, August 19, 2020.

1:29.9

Late last week, the UN Security Council voted down a resolution offered by the United States

1:35.4

to indefinitely extend a conventional arms embargo on Iran set to expire in October.

1:41.5

The lifting of the arms embargo was one of the sweeteners that was part of the Obama

1:45.2

administration's Iran nuclear agreement.

1:48.4

Now the Trump administration has announced it will begin the process of triggering the

1:52.3

snapback of UN sanctions on Iran using procedures outlined in UN Security Council resolution

1:58.0

2231, a move that could be the death now for the Iran nuclear agreement.

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