And the Hey everyone. It's Andrew Clavin with this week's interview with Stephen Meyer.

When people who believe in Jesus Christ who believe in God at all, talk about science.

There are generally three positions they can take.

One you could call the literalist position, which is if they read the Bible to say a certain thing

and science says that thing isn't so, then they just say, well, the science

has to be wrong and they dismiss it.

And I don't believe that that is actually a tenable position, a position you can continue to hold

because scripture and nature and reason and science are all gifts of God and

I think they're meant to speak to one another and be reconciled with one another and we have to

keep our minds open to the information coming in from all of them.

Then there's the weak position which is the

position I used to hold which is that there's nothing in science that

contradicts the notion of God. There's nothing here that's going to take away

from your faith and like I said I used to hold that position but I don't anymore

now I hold what I would call the strong position which is that science in fact is

increasingly pointing toward the reality of God and making it almost impossible not to have faith.

It's almost against the science not to have faith.

And that position, I think, one of the most eloquent spokesmen for that position is Stephen Meyer,

who has been saying for quite a long time

that the science, to not believe in God because of science has actually to be stuck about

a hundred years ago into a way of looking at science that simply does not hold true anymore.

Stephen is the director of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture,

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