Scientific Evidence vs Faith Jonathan McClatchie vs Elliot George (Classic Replay)

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🗓️ 14 May 2024

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One of our favourite debates today from the Archives - Elliot George, a retired science teacher, argues that science is grounded in evidence, while religion is based on 'faith' and 'make-belief' and should thus be dismissed. Jonathan McLatchie, writer, speaker and scientist, joins the debate and critiques Elliot's theories as fundamentally flawed. He contends that Christian belief is supported by evidence, asserting that science itself bolsters the argument for God's existence. Their debate explores the definition of belief, the validity of design as an explanation in biology, and the reasons Jonathan prefers Christianity over other worldviews. Originally Aired 15 November 2014 | https://www.premierunbelievable.com/unbelievable/unbelievable-scientific-evidence-versus-religious-belief-jonathan-mclatchie-and-elliot-george-debate/12591.article • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://pod.link/267142101 • Support us: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/donate

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0:50.0	Today on the program we're asking is religion based on unjustified belief
0:58.3	whereas science is based on evidence.
1:00.5	Elliot George is a retired science teacher and an atheist.
1:04.2	He's written a book called Godbuster.
1:06.2	Exorcizes all known gods.
1:08.8	Well in it, Elliot says that science is evidence based whereas Christianity and other religions are simply about
1:13.4	belief. If that sounds familiar you won't be surprised to know that he's influenced by
1:17.7	people like Peter Bogosian who of course has been a former guest on this
1:21.0	program. My other guest today though is Jonathan McClatchy. He's
1:24.2	our Christian representative. He's a PhD student in cell biology so he knows what he's
1:28.3	talking about when it comes to that stuff but he says Elliot's book is badly flawed and that Christian belief is evidence-based and in fact science itself lends support to the case for God for a creator.
1:39.0	Gentlemen welcome along to today's program.
1:42.0	Great to have you both with me in studio today.
1:45.0	First of all, a warm welcome to you, Elliot.
1:48.0	Pleasure to be here.
1:49.0	Now, shall we say from the outset this is a pen name Elliot George?
1:54.0	Yes, it's a not very well kept secret.
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