Are we, yes, where are we here? Why are we here not entirely clear? We are misfits thrust into existence by random chance with no hints at all as to how we're supposed to make sense of it all.

It's immensely bizarre. Here we are.

All right, all right. This is, let's get serious Michael. Michael Garfield.

Third time on the Here We Are Podcast, I think you are tied for most appearances. That might be that might be true. Yeah, I'm not sure

anyone's had four. So there you go. Very special guest. Lots of new

exciting things in your life, new hair, new job, new city, new baby,

facts, family, all sorts of all of the things. Life changes quickly as we're

finding out and and let's start off with talking about science

communication, shall we?

I think we shall.

So I've been thinking about this,

about science coming up against human nature, which is that, so say you take something like the weather, where, you know, we have a pretty solid history of making some human progress of

of figuring out some patterns and over time and you know rain dancing and

then farming and figuring out seasons kind of had more better and better predictions farmers almanac's now you have this cutting edge

technology I'm sure there's been some errors along the way, but it's been a pretty decent

trajectory toward making more accurate predictions about the weather.

It doesn't make you feel much better when it said it was going to be sunny out today and it rains on you. You know, it's still

frustrating.

You still think that meteorologist knows nothing.

And so why listen to him?

And then you have like one side that if a hurricane's going to come says that, you know,

the gays did this or something, you have another side that says like,

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