Hello everyone and welcome to talk nerdy. Today is Monday, December 15th, 2025, and I'm the host of the show, Dr. Kara, Santa Maria. So typically, I would say this is the last

episode of the year. I know I've been telling you that we will have our two-week hiatus like we usually do.

But I had the opportunity to put up another episode next week. It's actually going to be a re-release of an older episode

with some new information about how we can give during these holiday times. So watch this space

for that in one week's time. So on December 22nd, we'll be posting that. But for today, we have a brand new one for you.

And before we dive into it, I do want to thank those of you who make talk nerdy possible.

Remember, this show is and will always be 100% free to download.

And the way that we keep going is by relying on the support of individuals just like you.

It's the holiday season.

I know it's a tough time, so I appreciate just everything you guys have done throughout the year.

And as always, I want to give it a shout out to the top patrons of the show.

They include Chuck Buell, David J.E. Smith, Daniel Lang, Mary Neva, Anubadovaj, David Compton, Brian Holden, Gabbo J, O'Rie

Hagman, Pascuali Gelati, Joe Wilkinson, Triangulum, Doug Petapierre, and so many more. Thank you all so, so much for your support.

Okay, what have we got today? So I had the opportunity to speak with

Felice Frankel about her new book, Phenomenal Moments, Revealing the Hidden Science Around

Us. Felice is a science photographer. She's also an author, and she's been working as a research

scientist at MIT

in the Department of Chemical Engineering with support from the departments of mechanical

engineering and material science and engineering for a very long time. And she has produced

images for, I mean, every major outlet you know about. You've seen her photos in nature, in science, in

National Geographic, in Scientific American, and so many others. She has a book series called

The Visual Elements, which teaches visual communication to scientists and engineers. She's also

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