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How We Survive

Sci-Fi Intermission

How We Survive

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4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2021

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Our favorite place to look for climate solutions: Science fiction. In fact, sci-fi (and its sub-genre, cli-fi) is what got us thinking about adaptation in the first place.  


Cli-fi can get a little bleak — weather turns deadly; earth becomes uninhabitable; humans flee to space. And while it’s entertaining to imagine the worst-case scenarios, the best of the writing is hopeful. It allows us to dream up solutions that don’t involve billionaires, rockets or climate-changing satellite stations. 


This week, Molly sits down with climate fiction author Kim Stanley Robinson to discuss his most recent book, “The Ministry for the Future,” which almost reads as a blueprint for saving the planet. 

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0:00.0

So I have warned you several times this season that I am a pretty big sci-fi nerd.

0:05.7

Books, comics, movies, TV shows, the bigger and more dramatic and more imaginative, the better,

0:12.0

and sometimes yes, stupid eye candy but actually

0:16.3

SciFi is what got me thinking about climate solutions in the first place. Now a

0:22.1

lot of people think that sci-fi is about predicting,

0:24.4

catastrophizing about the future and you know sometimes it is especially when it

0:30.6

takes on the topic of climate. You recall what you said about how

0:34.4

polar melting might disrupt the North Atlantic current.

0:37.6

Yes.

0:38.6

When I think it's happening.

0:41.8

Cli-Fi, as it's sometimes known, can get a little bleak.

0:45.6

What can we do?

0:47.3

Save as many as you can.

0:50.5

In day after tomorrow, abrupt change basically destroys the northern hemisphere.

0:55.2

We can control our weather.

0:57.2

In Snowpiercer and Geostorm, humanity's attempts to manipulate the weather in order to survive,

1:02.3

backfire spectacularly.

1:04.0

Potential for catastrophic weather events

1:05.7

on a global scale.

1:07.4

A geostorm.

1:11.0

Dune, both the original books, the movie, and the most recent version,

1:15.2

imagines a world that used to be lush and full of life and now is a desert.

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