Research that resonates.

He's the president of the Government Accountability Institute, Peter Switzer.

Peter Schweitzer. Peter Schweitzer. Peter Schweitzer has spent many years, in fact, probably

done a more comprehensive job than anyone's ever done, chronicling the corruption by the powerful in Washington. Be very prescient Eric Eggers.

Join me right now is Government Accountability Institute Research Director, Eric Eggers.

We're going to take information that we've learned that people like Peter Schweitzer have uncovered,

and we're going to try to go further.

Great investigative reporting, Peter. You're the only one doing it. Thank God.

Eric Eggers from the Government Accountability Institute and co-hosts of that great podcast, The Drilled Down with Peter Schweitzer.

This is The Drill Down with Peter Schweitzer.

Hi, this is Peter Schweitzer and welcome to The Drill Down. Well, we have a representative form of government. We vote for the people who are going to represent us. But what if it's actually rigged before we can even cast a ballot? We're going to unpack that today with Eric Eggers. Eric, how are you? I'm excellent. I'm just glad that people vote with their phones and choose to listen to or watch this podcast. Thank you for joining us today. I think it's going to be really fun. I think we're going to talk about and combine two different election-related topics in a way that maybe no one else has thus far. Maybe there's a reason why they haven't done it. Maybe they shouldn't be combined, Peter Schweine, but I mean, they should. I think they should because there's been a lot of debate, of course, about voting, about ballots, about ballot access from the left, about voter fraud from the right of what actually happens in the ballot box.

But we're going to step back before that and look at how it's decided how congressional districts are drawn, how many, how states get

how many, you know, congressional seats. And it's very interesting. And this is different than

gerrymandering, which a lot of people are familiar with. You know, this goes back from the founding

of the United States, congressional districts, they're drawn by politicians

to gain a certain advantage. We're talking about something actually deeper here about how the

census has been manipulated to benefit Democrats primarily and how they have used civil rights

laws and other parts of American legal history to manipulate how,

you know, congressional districts are drawn to the detriment of certain political candidates.

No, and, you know, the term gaslighting gets used a lot.

Yeah.

But it's really fascinating if you consider, like we clearly have an unfortunate history of racial suppression in this country.

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