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It's interesting, man, with the special stuff going on right now.

I didn't want to say it because I didn't want to put anything out there when it first happened,

but when when Shepel dropped the special and Netflix didn't back down and Shows the Netflix

went on back and down. Much respect. Much respect. But everybody was like, I think even one of the

Damon Wains even said, like, Shepel freed the slate. They were going. Thank God, black guy,

I said something like that. Shepel did it. He freed us. You can't even really support it because you

can't as a not black person be like, that's what I've been trying to say. They'll be like, what?

So the initial reaction was like, that's it. Comedy is different now. We can say whatever we want.

Now I didn't want to say anything because I didn't want to put it out there in the world.

But the second I saw this much backlash for Shepel, I'm like, yeah, this is the worst possible

thing for comedy because if he's getting that backlash, if you're a young comic, you have no

chance to be edgy. They're not taken. If they're worried, like if they're having to make, if the

head of the company is having to make statements on behalf of the most popular comic, arguably in

history, right? Jokes. Yeah. If he has to make statements and potentially apologize for some of

things that he said or not being able to understand that he came back and I thought he handled

really well, but apologize for not really understanding like what the trans community at his workplace.

He said, he said his not hate speech. Yeah, exactly. No, he was great. I think how he's handled

is masterful, but the fact that he's got to make these comments, we don't hear him commenting on

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