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Divided Argument

Will Baude & Dan Epps

Politics, Government, Justice, Legal, Supreme Court, News, Law

4.8 • 766 Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2025

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

We talk a bit more about Trump v. CASA, revisit the usage of "general," answer some voicemails, and then turn to Gutierrez v. Saenz, a procedural tangle about whether a death row inmate can sue a state prosecutor over access to DNA testing.

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0:00.0	Oh, yay, oh, yay, oh, yay, oh, yeah.
0:03.3	The judicial power of the United States shall be vested in one Supreme Court.
0:08.0	Unless there is any more question to be able to find an argument in this case.
0:10.8	All persons having business before the Honorable, the Supreme Court of the United States are admonished to give their attention.
0:19.7	Welcome to Divided Argument, an unscheduled, unpredictable,
0:23.0	Supreme Court podcast. I'm Dan Epps.
0:25.3	And I'm Will Bowd.
0:26.8	So, Will, we're back to normal podcasting, just us after a couple episodes with other people.
0:36.1	So, you know, we probably will just do the kind of normal thing for a little while as we
0:40.8	try to pick up the pieces after, you know, I'd say a medium eventful term.
0:47.6	What do you think?
0:48.2	Is it kind of a mid term?
0:50.3	I would kind of the end of the term.
0:52.4	Yeah, mid is fine.
0:53.6	It's not, you know.
0:55.0	It's not a blockbuster.
0:57.0	The biggest end of term case in terms of newsworthiness is CASA, which, you know, kind of nerdy procedural case.
1:06.4	Yeah, no, it's one of the greatest predispendence of my lifetime, but it's not like normally the near times greatest because you just agree with it so hard.
1:13.6	And just so well done.
1:15.2	It's just to spare it doing it in the right way.
1:17.4	It's a vindication of the dispute resolution of model of federal courts over the law
1:21.0	declaration of model of federal courts, which is one of the great dichotomies in, you know,
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