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I'm Rick Green here with David Barton and Tim Barton. We're taking on the hot topics of the day from a biblical, historical, and constitutional perspective. Have a lot of great guests that join us. And later in the program, Kelly Shackleford will be back with us. First Liberty, great organization. They won so many cases at the Supreme Court and so many battles on the ground that they didn't

even have to take to court because they just wrote the right letter and went in and got the

Constitution followed even by a lot of schools and different places that were infringing

on religious liberty. So we love those guys. Appreciate what they do. Firstliberty.org is their

website. David Tim, this topic is essentially seeing the contrast of what the

Trump administration, and meaning when we say Trump administration, sometimes I think we

have to be more specific. That includes all of the agencies that are out there, including the

Department of Education that we don't think it's constitutional, but while it's there, instruction

that it gives to schools can have a lot

of influence on how much religious expression is allowed. So, wow, what a difference a president

makes. This is so different than when Biden was president. Well, it's amazing that Trump has

aggressively rolled out some really good initiatives, and he has really stayed within what I think all of us

consider sound constitutional guidelines. I mean, he hasn't pushed the envelope, but he hasn't backed

away from anything like prayer in schools. I mean, he's not saying radical things that would

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