Schemas, Narcissism, and Angry Kirk
Psychology In Seattle Podcast
Kirk Honda
4.5 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 14 January 2026
⏱️ 52 minutes
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This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/KIRK to get 10% off your first month.
00:00 Is it possible to have every schema?
21:31 Modeling empathy
23:20 How might a client present with both Borderline and Narcissism?
32:38 Is short form clinician content any good?
38:57 Is Will from Goodwill Hunting a Narcissist?
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, deserved listeners. I thought I would answer some patron emails. And by the way, |
| 0:05.3 | Stacey in the Google Doc puts people that are higher tier patrons and also YouTube members |
| 0:11.8 | at the front of the list. So that's often why I'm reading those emails first. But let's read |
| 0:19.3 | this first one from YouTube member and highest tier patron Vic. |
| 0:24.2 | He says, hi, Kirk, after learning about schema therapy, I decided to take a test on the |
| 0:30.6 | attachment project website to see what schemas I qualify for. The results were that on, so just chiming in here, there are 18 |
| 0:39.0 | schemas, by the way. He says, the results were that six of the schemas I tested very high. |
| 0:45.3 | Three, I tested as high, meaning below very high. And the rest I tested as being medium. So my question is, does it mean that I have all 18 schemas and it's just a matter of the spectrum? |
| 1:01.0 | Or are some people actually, so let's see, what is he saying? |
| 1:06.1 | I think he is basically saying, is this accurate? |
| 1:10.1 | Can someone have all the spectrum, all 18 schemas? |
| 1:14.6 | And says, by the way, I'm a mid-30s male with ADHD disorganized attachment, and my ACE's score is six. |
| 1:20.8 | Thanks. |
| 1:21.1 | You're awesome. |
| 1:22.4 | End of email. |
| 1:23.7 | Yeah. |
| 1:23.9 | So an ACE's score of six is pretty high because I think the top is 10, if I'm not mistaken. There are 10 items that you will endorse potentially. And if you're endorsing 6 out of 10 of the, you know, of the difficult childhood experiences like neglect, abuse, mental illness, |
| 1:48.0 | you know, suicide, this kind of stuff. I'm trying to remember all the different things on the |
| 1:51.6 | test. But yeah, six, then, you know, that's a lot. Plus, if you have disorganized attachment, |
| 1:56.0 | that means you were probably very abused growing up. So can someone with tremendous childhood trauma find that when they take the |
| 2:06.9 | schema therapy measure that they qualify for a lot of schemas, if not to some extent, |
| 2:13.9 | all the schemas, the answer is yes. |
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