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Psychology In Seattle Podcast

Schema Therapy Deep Dive (2019 Rerun)

Psychology In Seattle Podcast

Kirk Honda

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 14 October 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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[Rerun] Do you have recurring patterns in your relationships that are frustrating? Schema therapy might help. Dr. Kirk Honda talks for over four hours about the theory and how to use it in your life -- our core emotional needs, the schema that develop when some of our needs aren't met, how we habitually cope with those schema being triggered, and our overall personality modes that develop.

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August 30, 2019

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0:00.0

psychology in Seattle.

0:05.0

Hey, deserving listeners.

0:08.0

Today I'm going to do a deep dive on schema therapy.

0:13.0

I find schema therapy to be a good theory.

0:18.0

I like it.

0:19.0

It's practical, but it also can be very deep. I think it's very useful.

0:24.4

It provides very specific examples. It's not this very amorphous theory, you know, psychodynamic theory,

0:31.9

for example, which I love, can be quite amorphous sometimes, whereas schema therapy provides a very specific guidance on figuring out what one's issues are and how to help them.

0:47.9

And I've known about schema therapy for a long time, and I've known the basic premise of it and thought I would like it as it's an

0:56.8

integrative theory of several theories that I like. But I didn't realize I would like it this much.

1:02.4

I really, really like it. And if I would have discovered this theory early in my career,

1:06.8

I might consider, I might have eventually considered myself a schema therapist because it really is in

1:14.8

line with the way that I think about people and it has enough in there, enough integrated in there

1:20.2

that it's not narrow and limited.

1:24.3

And at this point in my career, I just have my own identity and so so it's kind of silly to, like, switch course at this point.

1:31.0

Plus, I feel like I've been operating as a schema therapist for 20 years anyway, having integrated other kinds of things.

1:38.4

But anyway, yeah, I like schema therapy so much that I'm pretty sure I'm going to start integrating it into some of my courses at my

1:46.2

university, particularly in my course on Family of Origin, which I have novice graduate students

1:54.2

analyze themselves and their family of origin, their childhood, to discover their vulnerabilities as a person and as a

2:05.2

therapist so that they can understand their vulnerabilities when they are sitting with

2:10.4

their clients.

2:11.5

And schema therapy provides a pretty distinct, systematic way.

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